New Business: NYC sponsored CNC Apprenticeship & Outsourcing Quandary

Titan & community,

I’ve been following for about a year now and have been inspired by the work done and the trials endured. The backbone of it all for me is the level of expertise that is brought to the machining field here and the strong values in American manufacturing and education. I have a couple things going on: first, I have a job to develop a CNC curriculum for New York City, driven by a $5m policy by Bill de Blasio, to provide paid training to NYC residents and guarantee local job placement; and second, I operate in Brooklyn, NY as a freelance metalworker, trying to hit a very new wave with a City sponsored $2.5m semi-professional makerspace and pull-in a $132.5k job. I respect the advice given, so I thought I’d reach out to see if there is any for my situation.

I’ve been in the metalwork industry for about 17 years now, started in HS with a teacher that became a mentor – a Vietnam vet and engineer, called us all troglodytes. I was lucky, our school provided a CAD program where I learned how to design, model and draft industrial projects like vises and tap handles – we had competitions where our designs were judged by local manufacturing companies, it was a lot of fun. A year before I graduated, my mentor ended up getting a new job at a community college to provide a CNC machining program, so I followed him to college after HS and learned the trade over two years. Starting my professional career, I worked in a handful of custom job shops, working my way up to supervisor and lead machinist at a couple; as well as taking on project management and design development roles at a Brooklyn architectural metalwork firm. Then fast forwarding to several years ago, I started my industrial freelancing business, Silicon Carbon, offering: development, management, fabrication and education – as the sole operator of my company I can provide an array of value propositions. I’ve been testing what I can get into since then.

One of the opportunities I’ve been privileged to get is to build NYC’s Department of Small Business Service’s new ApprenticeNYC program. It started last year after Mayor Bill de Blasio signed a $5m policy to kick-start NYC manufacturing and create skilled labor for the NYC’s skill’s gap. There have been a couple pilots at this point with great feedback, but the City is keen on finding a finalized curriculum. The scope of the program is larger than learning how to operate a CNC, although that is the main focus. It also assumes zero experience and operates full-time for ten weeks, the Fundamentals of CNC book and video material has been very helpful. Landing on ground, the program has some of its own material but doesn’t need to reinvent the wheel, so is there a way we can reference Titans of CNC Academy and the material without stepping toes?

Another opportunity that I have is a manufacturing job in residential renovation, developing and fabricating custom cabinetry and appliance handles for the kitchens – it’s a cool interdisciplinary job that I have planned on using the City’s Futureworks Makerspace, it’s medium-sized ringing in at $132.5k. But it gets tragic, after being involved in this project for two years and being told I was their guy, last week at the 11th hour the owners decided to investigate Chinese manufacturing solutions and have scrambled the whole equation. I really want to job, I know my price out-competes any local manufacturer, showing the potential of makerspaces as a viable solution for small-business startup, but the owners have suggested as a counter-offer that I operate as a project manager and quality control guy while they contract a Chinese manufacturer. They want to save a dime. Part of my gets it, now that we are a global economy and China is a real competitor they must be recognized, but in my opinion the owners are making a big mistake when it comes to service and quality. This is why I’m reaching out to you, because I’m a proud US, blood-sweat-and-tears metalworker and I want to see manufacturing here. But I also see this as an opportunity to see the belly of the beast and endeavor as a researcher so I can see the manufacturing market at a higher level. I’m really torn. Any advice?

Thank you! I look forward to the future of CNC in America! :grinning:

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@BrentonWhite I am sure you can find lots of info right here on embedding Titans Academy into school curriculum right here in the forum. Embedding Titans of CNC Academy into school curriculum

It’s to your business venture. That’s a really tough situation to be in with exporting of the service that you privided to China. I’ve said many times that the Chinaman need to eat also. This does not make your particular situation any better. Do you have a different customer base that you can search from to come up with the other buyers of your services. I’ve had that situation in the past where I’ve only had one or two customers and then one stop ordering things then I’m up the creek without a paddle.

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@Rumpelstiltskin Thank you for the embedding lead! It shows how Titan’s material has been used. Plus, I feel reassured in my pitch that suggests using Canvas LMS, it’s good to see him using the same platform.

Yeah, everyone needs to eat and it is business – at the end of the day I’m still happy to have been in the process and to have learned what I have. Your customer-base, diversification point is solid and I see it. Part of what I’ve learned here is my capacity of scope: as a small company I should focus on a broader base and smaller jobs so to reduce risk. I do have other customer bases outside education and architecture, friends in the industry, but I’m just coming to accept that this other job may not happen, so I’m still figuring out what my next move is going to be.

Really appreciate your input! Thanks.

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