I just got a Haas sim to learn the control but I’m having problems setting tool and work offsets.
Since there is no physical machine or tools, I cant figure out how to make it work. Do I just give it a random Z X and Y values to set zero? It’s kind of like working blind with no actual machine to gauge it’s position. Any help would be much appreciated.
Have you tried asking your Hass dealer? I’ll pack some people and see if they can help @markpesce.
@russell. @Billy-Boyce
You can enter the offsets or you can manually move the axis in mdi to a position you would normally set the work offset or tool offset. If you do not have correct offset values, you will get over travel alarms and such. For a Mill I usually set the work coordinate to the center of it’s travel. Example a 16 x 30 table, I would set X to -15.00 and Y to -8.00. I would leave Z offset as zero and for each tool would enter a value of -4.000. For a lathe, I would enter Z axis as zero, but set Z tool position to -10.00 and each X to -6.000. This will allow most programs to work.
this is an issue with both lathe and mill simulators, so why hasn’t there been any info or manual about this from haas in the first place?
I guess if you look at it from a setup person’s viewpoint, there is no issue. The Haas simulators are exactly the same functions as the machine control. If you were to program and not set your tool offsets and work offsets you would get the same errors. When you get an error code, you can google to find what the problem is.
when you start a simulator, you get to choose what type of machine you are using to simulate with, different mills and lathes, and since the controls are dedicated to be used as simulators, haas could have written what distance it is to the table in the choosen machine from the spindle nose, then with the real life length of the tool holder, tool length and the height of the vice, you could figure out the tool offset. in a lathe you also have the probe situation, where you touch off the tools at one point, and still have to do a work offset at the nose of the detail. in the lathe you need to know the travel distance from the g53x0z0 to g54x0z0 to be able to reach the detail. so it’s not just to programm or stick a flash-drive in the control and run the program, there are a few parameters to consider.
Thanks for the info. I will try entering those values and give it a go. I guess it does probing as well but I’m not sure if it is set up or not. They could do a better job by actually giving the person
a visual reference of a table and spindle.
Normally, you get a simulator when you purchase your machine, so you setup the simulator like your machine.
You need to put in Fake Offsets - Use G54 and X-10. Y-5.0 Z0
set Tools lengths at -5.0 on all needed. Then you wont have overtravel alarms . It think its a real machine like a VF2.
Lathe you will need X-x.xxxx and Z -x.xxx on tool offsets
don’t bother with G54 X or Z on lathe work offsets
Could you tell me where I could get the Haas sim from?
I ordered it from my local Haas HFO